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The descent through the forest to Gambaiseul was entertaining, though the
vicious cobbled speed bumps (shouts of "Ralentisseurs!") in the village
were less so. Upon landing after a brief flight I was relieved to find
that nothing had grounded on the XL.
прим. В конце спуска перед зданием мерии стоит пара "дорожные пролицейские", как сейчас у нас в городе перед школами, чтобы не разгонялись! Их можно объехать, прижимясь к обочине по узкому промежутку.
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We also noticed that the distance from the start to
Mortagne au Perche was about 20K longer than was on the cue sheet. Was this
going to be a longer ride than advertised ? (yes).
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Маршрутный лист или стрелки?
From: Don Hamilton <DHamilton@copper.net>
Subject: PBP Detours / Pronunciations / Staying on route
A question that has been bugging me for awhile. On PBP I have heard that
there were several detours. I didn't know myself because 1999 was our (my
stoker) first PBP and we just followed the arrows and other riders. Only
once did I pull out the route map that I had made from the route
instructions. Could someone tell me where these were. Maybe indicate by
road number and towns where the detours (route deviations) were.
Second, ...
Third, with the previous threads on staying on the route or taking
alternates, here in the USA as Bill Bryant has said, we are to follow the
routes. However did this mean in France on PBP we didn't have to follow the
route, just so we went through each checkpoint ? I doubt that is right. I
would have loved to have taken the direct route at the end instead of the
round about way through Trappes and Guyancourt but that is the way the
arrows went.
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Don Hamilton
Dublin USA
From: Don Hamilton <DHamilton@copper.net>
Subject: RE: Auk- Secret Controls and Route Following
Bill. Your comments are interesting. I felt the same about the finish on
PBP. I knew the way back because of training rides. I didn't want to turn
right and go up that hill and do the long round about way to get back to
the finish. I think the route instructions had us going straight instead of
the right turn. I also heard that there was an addendum that some riders
had in their packet (we didn't) showing another way.
We did make the right turn and do the longer way to the finish (my stoker
and the others we were riding with said to follow the arrows). This raises
the question. What is the official route of a brevet ?? Is it the route
instructions, the arrows, or (as we have here in the US) a route map. On
PBP should we have followed the route instructions or the arrows ??
Would following the route instructions have been considered a short cut ??
We followed the arrows for the entire PBP. In fact I only looked at the
route instructions to get an idea of distance. I had spent a lot of time
marking the route on a set of maps, cutting them into strips, numbering
them, and sealing them inside of plastic. Only once on the route did I pull
them out, on Thursday night east of Mortagne au Perche when we had gone off
course about 2K and wanted to see where we were and where we missed the
turn.
Don Hamilton
Dublin, Ohio
USA
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:06:28 +0200
From: "Bengt Sandborgh" <bsandborgh@swipnet.se>
Subject: Re: Auk- Secret Controls and Route Following
Hi,
I followed the link =
http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/web/brm/brm_regle.html , version Jan =
99, and I read under article 8: "le participant est tenu de respecter =
l'itin=E9raire qui lui sera remis au d=E9part." My French to English =
translating abilities are not very good but I think this means: the =
participant must respect the route (instructions) given to him at the =
start.
Note: this document is not the same which exists in English translation, =
by Johnny Bertrand, at http://www.bgcycling.org/BRM/English/brvreg.html =
some minor discrepancies can be noted. See =
http://www.bgcycling.org/BRM/French/brvreg.html for the version of July =
89.
I can only agree that it is annoying that ACP makes changes to the rules =
without telling anyone.
Yours
Bengt Sandborgh
RM Representative Sweden
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:10:02 +0100
From: "Fat Nick" <nick@fatnick.com>
Subject: ACP rules about route sheets: French text and a real English translation
I was intrigued by Daniel Connelly's posting that ACP didn't seem to have
anything about following the rules on their web site. As somebody who earns
a living translating between two languages, I was particularly intrigued
when Daniel mentioned he'd obtained a translation from a web site, so I
thought I'd go take a look what the French *really* said <smile>.
Here's Daniel's original comment:
1. After the reply to my post that alternate routes weren't
"cheating", I checked the ACP rules
( http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/web/brm/brm_regle.html ),
with the help of the translation on http://www.rusa.org/ ,
and saw nothing about having to follow the route sheet.
Now here's what article 8 of the rules at that URL actually say in French:
"Article 8 : Chaque participant reГoit au dИpart une carte de route et
un
itinИraire sur lesquels figurent un certain nombre de lieux de contrТle oЫ
le participant devra obligatoirement faire pointer cette carte de route. Les
organisateurs peuvent Иgalement prИvoir un ou plusieurs contrТles secrets;
pour cette raison et pour une question d'assurance, le participant est tenu
de respecter l'itinИraire qui lui sera remis au dИpart."
Here's my English translation of Article 8 of ACP's rules:
"Article 8: At the start, each participant shall receive a brevet card
and a
route sheet which shall feature a certain number of control points where the
participant must have his brevet card stamped. Organisers may also have one
or more secret controls and for this reason, as well as for insurance
purposes, participants shall be required to follow the route sheet that is
given to them at the start."
So, it looks pretty clear to me. "Thou shallt follow the route sheet"
Hope this clarifies some of the linguistic confusion!
Nick Rosenthal
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Как не потеряться ****************************************
Your comment regarding the quality of the queue sheet gives me a chance toreveal our own rule for never getting lost during PBP. We called it the "TwoFrenchman Rule" and goes thus:
a. If you are unsure of your direction and have not seen a sign or string
of riders ahead for a period of 5 min. Stop and wait until you are passed by
two authentic Frenchmen. One will not do since it could be a hallucination,
two
Frenchmen riding together surely know the way. One exception is if a single
Frenchman looks to be about 65 yrs +, than it is a sure thing.
b. If, after 5 min. you are not passed by two Frenchmen, turn back and
wait at the last PBP sign and remain in place until passed by two Frenchmen.
Simple, non?